Joining us in lang cat studios (yep, that's a thing now) is Nucleus chief commercial officer Alex Kovach.

Alex chats to Mark about the acquisition strategy at Nucleus Financial Platforms group, and why he believes scale matters.

He discusses the migration to FNZ, and offers some reassurance to Nucleus advisers that they'll remain on Bravura tech for some time yet.

He also counters the traditionally cynical view about private equity involvement in platforms, and explains why he feels the two approaches the business inherited on platform cash were "fundamentally wrong".

Mark also asks Alex about Nucleus' place in any upcoming platform price war.