This week in the podcat guest chair is Association of British Insurers head of long-term savings policy Rob Yuille.

In this episode Tom and Rob discuss the ABI's action-packed list of priorities and areas of interest, including the future of auto-enrolment, advice and guidance, social care and pension dashboards.

Rob talks about the role of pensions in the context of the cost of living crisis, and the question of how far we go in using pensions to help build financial resilience.

He also shares some details about the pension industry's engagement season campaign, which the ABI is leading alongside the Pensions and Lifetime Savings Association.

(Tom sends his apologies on the sound quality for this one, due to rogue mic settings.)

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